Mac vs. PC. A debate that live on for years to come, but there is really only one that is best for photographers. Read on to find out which.
Oct 2015 Update: Be sure to check out the Windows Photo Editing SUPER Guide article for updated recommendations on the best low price options for PCs that will run Photoshop and Lightroom well – including what hardware is worth spending more money on and what is not!
Short Answer
It depends! I hate it when photographers do that to me.
OK, so bottom line is that either can work fine, but you have to spend the money to get the hardware you need.
Really this article is mostly for the PC user who are into photography.
If you are a Mac user, I doubt you are tempted to switch to a PC because you are a photographer.
In fact, you may be a Mac user because you are a photographer, and that is great.
You Mac users may be interested in the end of the article where I provide recommendations on which hardware upgrades are actually worth the money to make sure it can do a good job editing photos.
Now for you PC users. You are probably hearing constantly about doing photo editing on Mac.
You may be seriously tempted to get a Mac just because you hear so much about it from the photography community.
Maybe you are curious about if it really is better than the PC.
You may want to give it a try and determine for yourself, especially if it is time to invest in a new computer, but if things are going fine for you with editing your photos on a PC then my recommendation is to stick with what you know.
Why put a kink in your workflow and go away from what you know?
There, a photographer just gave you permission to use a PC for editing photos.
Instead of switching platforms from PC to Mac, your photography will improve much more by investing in lenses (check out my article recommending a “nifty fifty” lens as the second thing a beginner should buy), other equipment, and training (check out Jim and Darin’s awesome training courses at photoclasses.com).
Whether Mac or PC, I know how seriously frustrating it is to try and edit photos on a computer that doesn’t have enough power.
Maybe you are still using the computer you had before you started into photography, and it isn't up to the challenge.
If that's you, it is time to invest in a newer computer.
Read the long answer to go through reasons to pick one over the other, but really neither has a huge advantage and I think it makes the most sense to stick with what you know.
Check out the last two sections of this article for help in the specifications of what you need in a computer (PC or Mac) for a good photo editing experience.
Long Answer
I think it would be easier to discuss religion or politics than to take a side on the Mac vs. PC debate.
It is a debate that seems among photographers to be second only to the Canon vs. Nikon (or Sony, or Panasonic, or any of the other manufacturers).
The discussion is a little easier when you put a photography related slant on it, but it can still be fairly heated.
Still, as the hobbyist editor here at improvephotography.com my job is to take a view on these kinds of things and recommend something based on my own experience as well as what I have learned from other great photographers.
Remember this when you comment on the post, but please do comment.
At some point it is likely to become necessary to get a better computer than what you had when you started into photography.
Photoshop, Lightroom, and many other photo processing tools run much better when you have a good computer.
That machine you bought online for $200 last Christmas is simply not going to work well.
You can make due for some time, and you should for as long as you can.
But when processing a shoot takes twice as long as it should because you are CONSTANTLY waiting for your computer, or the display connected to your computer is not good enough (1080p HD is NOT enough), you will want to do something about it.
At the point when you have decided it is time and the next photography investment you are going to make is a new computer, think of it in the same you think about investing in a new lens and be prepared to spend as much in a lot of cases.
Check out the last part of the article here on recommendations of what the minimum hardware should be in both Mac and PC computers to make editing photos go well.
Why Should You Listen To Me?
Like the other articles I have authored for this website, I am writing this shortly after having gone through exactly this dilemma.
I realized very quickly that even a as a beginning photographer I needed to “post process” my photos on the computer (see my article here about why a beginner needs Adobe Lightroom) in order to make my shots look anything close to those I was seeing online.
Although I consider myself to be a fairly solid hobbyist photographer at this point, I am still relatively new to photography.
However, as an IT professional who has worked on and with computers for more than 20 years, I know computer hardware and software pretty well.
I have built computers, written software for computers, and as of writing this article my full time job is to architect solutions for very large computer systems for a large financial institution.
It is a subject area I have more qualifications to speak to than any other photography subject.
All that said, as I was trying to learn about photography any way I could (podcasts, YouTube, books, etc.) it felt like I was constantly being told that I needed a Mac in order to have photo editing go well.
It seemed like every YouTube video was done on a Mac, ever podcast was about how the new Mac was so awesome, and every photographer I talked to was using a Mac. It was a full on Mac attack, and I am a PC user.
I was editing my photos in Lightroom and had become frustrated that the PC laptop I was running it so … s l o w l y.
The laptop was dated and I knew that even if I wasn’t doing photo editing it was time to upgrade the hardware.
Given all of the hype from the photography community about Mac, I was wondering if I should dump all of my limited hobbyist photography budget on a Mac, or save some $$$ and stick with PC?
Hopefully my story sounds familiar to some of you, especially the beginners out there who are just getting started into photography.
If so, let me take you through a few questions you probably have.
Doesn’t Adobe Software Run Better on Mac?
Mac fanboys are probably going to disagree, but my experience has been that Adobe tools like Photoshop and Lightroom do not necessarily run better on a Mac vs. a PC.
I believe they used to several years ago, although I don’t have personal experience with it from before 2011 to say for sure.
In fact, before Apple switched the architecture of the Mac from PowerPC to Intel in 2006, Adobe had to write their software products very differently for Mac than for PC due to the architecture differences.
So I am pretty sure there really was something to this years ago, I just don’t think there is much to it today.
Like so many other things in life, you get what you pay for in a computer. There is a reason those cheap $200 PCs don’t really work that well for nearly anything.
If a PC has equivalent hardware to a Mac, it will run Adobe software products just as well as a Mac.
Really the biggest difference then is the cost (Mac is more expensive – initially) and personal preference of Windows vs. OSX – which can be extremely important.
If you are using a PC, I think you should stick with what you know best because I don’t think either has a big advantage over the other to run post processing software.
Don’t Macs Have Fewer Problems?
This is an area where I will give a very slight nod to the Mac, agreeing that in general they seem to have fewer issues than PCs.
Again, you get what you pay for, and there is a reason a Mac has more of a “premium” initial price than a PC.
Well, okay, it could be just because Apple can. No, Apple really does put a lot of work into making sure you have a good product in your hands when you fork over that much of your hard earned money.
I am truly convinced this is a real difference between Mac and PC. Unfortunately, it seems Apple is also becoming a victim of their own success and the quality control has gone down as the demand has gone up.
I often hear the argument come up very quickly that PCs are virus magnets whereas Macs are impervious to malware problems.
This is actually a topic very near and dear to my heart, but this isn’t an article on the topic of computer security, so let’s just say that there is more in it for the bad guys to write viruses for Windows.
So yes, you are more likely to have a problem with malware on a PC than on a Mac.
Can a PC work without major problems? Can a PC be kept clean from viruses? Do Macs ever have problems? Yes, yes, and yes.
Is this a reason to pick a Mac over a PC? Maybe. It may make sense if you are, or will be, doing photography professionally to save yourself from also having to be a PC technician by getting a Mac.
Just remember that Macs are still computers, and all computers have technical problems (after all the hardware in the Mac is the same as in some good PCs).
If you aren’t used to a Mac, a PC will be just fine, so long as it isn’t a bargain basement model. I think it makes a lot of sense to stick with what you know.
Aren’t PCs MUCH Less Expensive?
As I have alluded to earlier in the article here, in general PCs are less expensive than Macs – at least initially.
And that word “initially” is the key. The upfront cost of a PC that has almost exactly the same hardware can be as much as 50% less than a Mac.
This is why many PC fanboys will often refer to the “Apple Tax” when you talk about Macs.
But the truth is, unless you build a PC yourself, many of the PC models from the big box vendors like HP and Dell usually end up with some durability problems. They just don’t seem to last very long. Sigh.
The PC business is pretty much as cutthroat as it gets.
The margins have gone down to the point that the manufacturers have to sell a ton of them to make any money.
As they are building them they cut every corner they possibly can. It is worse for laptops than desktops. So you may be able to buy a PC for considerably less money than a Mac, but the Mac may last longer.
Will a Mac last long enough to make the higher initial cost worth it? Maybe. Depends a lot on your use. I think it is very similar to a car.
The same car will last much longer for the old lady driving to church on Sundays vs. a teenager.
To me the costs of a computer, the full costs from beginning to end, depends on how much you know about PCs and computer hardware.
Apple has chosen to make their computers much less upgradeable by anyone but them.
There are some good reasons to do so, but you can’t replace almost anything yourself very easily on many of the most recent models.
PCs on the other hand are much more open. Desktops a lot more so than laptops, but without too much trouble you can replace RAM, a hard drive, video card, and even a processor if you wanted to.
This can help you increase the hardware in your computer a bit more slowly like I did, where I added almost one thing at a time.
Takes some knowledge. Takes some time. But if budget is one of your key concerns you can minimize the up front investment.
If you are a beginner on a tight budget and are willing to be your own tech support then you can potentially save quite a bit of money on a PC and use the rest on photography gear!
But be aware, even though the number may be smaller than the up front cost of a Mac, it still takes a good sized amount of money to build a PC good enough for editing photos.
In the end I don't think the cost is all that different, at least not 50% less.
Desktop or Laptop?
Another trend I heard constantly from photographers was the use of laptops for photo editing.
Maybe this has to do a lot with the Mac line of computers having a sweet spot with the laptop form factor with their MacBook models.
Maybe there are just a lot more photographers who are constantly on the go and need a more mobile solution.
Whatever the reason, I think this is one you really need to consider carefully.
Desktops are quite simply better for editing photos. Yes, that is a blanket across the board statement.
Mac or PC, a desktop will run your editing software better than a laptop for less money.
MacBooks are very capable of running editing software if you make sure they have some essential upgrades (see the Mac Recommendations section below).
In fact, I think MacBooks are better suited than nearly anything from the PC world in the way of laptops.
That is changing a bit, the “ultrabook” line of PC laptops are finally competing fairly well with MacBooks and some of the stuff shown by PC makers at CES 2015 looks really interesting.
But going back to the cutthroat market of PCs I will bring up again how the vendors cut every corner they possibly can.
I have owned numerous PC laptops over the years and haven't been truly happy with any of them – especially for photo editing.
As good as a MacBook can be, I still recommend a desktop. Laptop screens are mostly terrible.
The MacBook retina screens are beautiful, but tiny. I have been shocked as I moved from a 24″ full HD (1920×1080) screen to a 30″ WQXGA (25650×1600) IPS screen at just how important this is for editing photos.
There is a reason creative professionals are willing to spend $2,400 on a super high quality Eizo monitor (check out monoprice.com for great monitors for far less money), it really matters.
In general you can get more CPU, more RAM, and more disk with less money in a desktop than a laptop.
Desktops also tend to last longer because heat is an enemy to computers and laptops are in such small packages their heat battle is going to be lost faster.
Think through this one very carefully. If you REALLY need mobility then you have no choice and should use a laptop, but I suspect that for many who claim this to be a requirement their laptop actually rarely leaves their desk and they would have been better off with a desktop.
PC Recommendations (early 2015)
When I was faced this dilemma I knew both the Mac and the PC pretty well, so my own choice actually came down to cost.
I knew how to build and maintain a PC very well, and could get a lot more hardware for the dollars by doing that.
I decided that for me it was better to minimize my investment on computer hardware, end up with a PC better suited for photo editing, and save the rest of the budget for other photography gear.
Even though I had a lot of experience with computers, I didn’t have a lot of experience with photo editing software and understanding what hardware actually makes a difference.
So I did quite a lot of research and was able to do some testing to see specifically what makes a difference.
Unfortunately there are too many PC manufacturers for me to recommend a specific model.
I don't think in the PC world there is actually all that much difference between them.
Some PC makers do better at customer support than others, although even that seems to change depending on who you ask.
I will say that I doubt any of the PCs you find in a box at the store are going to meet your needs. Go online and customize your order based on the recommendations below.
Here is my advice on what things are worth “upgrading” in a PC to make sure it will run Photoshop and Lightroom well.
Remember, this is very photography focused and is not a recommendation for a gaming or video editing PC (that would start off with maxing out the CPU and have some other differences).
The recommendations are in order of priority to help you decide how to get it configured as you are ordering from a PC maker or if you are brave enough to try a custom build (Be sure to check out the Windows Photo Editing SUPER Guide article for updated recommendations):
- 32GB of RAM. These photo editing software programs are memory hogs. As a software developer I think Adobe and other software companies are being lazy with their development practices because so many computer systems have high quantities of RAM, but they need every bit you can give them.
You can have things work pretty will with 16GB of RAM, and can get by with 8GB, but this is the first place I would max out a system configuration for a computer and get as much memory as possible.
- SSD hard drive. Abbreviation for solid state drive, an SSD is a hard drive that uses flash memory technology, similar to the memory in your phone and the SD cards you put in your camera.
They are quite a bit faster at reading and writing than the magnetic spinning hard drives, but they are also more expensive.
Quite a bit more expensive. But boy does this make a difference for photo editing, I almost made it my first thing on the list.
Get something 256GB or higher for the OS and programs, and to use as a “working” drive.
Then have a 1-4TB magnetic hard drive used for your longer-term storage (internal or external).
If SSD is too expensive, then at least making sure you have a magnetic drive that spins at 7200RPM (instead of the very common 5400RPM) will make a big difference. - Intel “Core i” processor. Kind of strange to think that the processor is so far down on a list of hardware specs, but in my opinion this is where it belongs for a decent photo editing machine.
This doesn’t mean you can ignore the processor. Won’t do you any good to have loads of RAM and a SSD drive if you don’t have a decent CPU.
Get the best one you can afford, but upgrade the other things listed previous to the CPU first.
I have been an AMD processor fan for many years, just like I love to cheer on the underdog in sports.
AMD has often had a better price to performance ratio over Intel, but when it comes to running photo editing software there is no question the software is heavily optimized for Intel processors.
Photoshop and Lightroom will still run on AMD, you won’t have a problem launching the application, but I think it is worth the money to go with Intel.
I also recommend at least a Core i3 processor. The software will run on a Pentium or Celeron process from Intel, but not nearly as well.
The Core i5 is a pretty big step up from the i3, and the Core i7 won’t break a sweat on this kind of work. - Large, high resolution IPS monitor. This was the last piece of computer equipment I upgraded, didn’t want to spend the money on a monitor, but it has made a HUGE difference in my photo editing.
I recommend a 27” or 30” monitor capable of 2560×1600 resolution (more than 2x more resolution than HD). That resolution is commonly called WQXGA. You will want to connect the PC to the monitor through DVI or DisplayPort, not through HDMI or VGA.
If you missed it earlier in the article, check out the monitors over at monoprice.com for really good ones at very reasonable prices. - Nvidia graphics. This isn’t because AMD (used to be ATI) graphics are bad. It is because Adobe doesn’t support anything but Nvidia very well on a PC.
It is improving, and I expect it to get much better in the coming years with the AMD graphics in the Mac Pro being supported so well, but for now you should avoid AMD video cards in your PC – whether laptop or desktop.
The graphics chipset seems to be a much bigger deal in Adobe’s video editing programs than it is for Photoshop or Lightroom, but if possible you should get a computer with a discrete (meaning one that is not built into the motherboard often called “integrated”) Nvidia chipset graphics card with 1GB of RAM. - USB 3.0. Your Mac friends will scoff at USB speeds when they have Thunderbolt for external storage.
There are a few PC motherboards with Thunderbolt built into them for PCs, but it has remained mostly a feature of Apple products and isn’t very well supported.
Still, USB 3.0 is so much faster than USB 2.0 that it is good to make sure you have a few on your computer.
Even with USB 3.0 I wouldn’t recommend editing your photos from an external drive, it just isn’t fast enough.
But using a USB 3.0 compatible SD card reader when importing the photos will make a big difference, as well as backing up or having your long-term storage on a USB 3.0 compatible external drive.
Note: At CES 2015 USB 3.1 and a new type of “C” connector was presented with speeds 2x faster than USB 3.0, theoretically equal to the speed of Thunderbolt.
Although there is still an architectural advantage to Thunderbolt that will likely make it superior. - 64 bit Windows 8.1 or 64 bit Windows 7 Professional. The latest and greatest OS from Redmond has taken a beating in the media.
They changed things up a lot. Judging by the direction Microsoft is taken Windows 10 they know they went too far towards a tablet friendly UI that didn't go well with PC users.
Still, once you get used to things a little it isn't a big deal.
I have been running my photo editing on Windows 8.1 for quite a while now and have no complaints.
Whether Windows 7 (recommend Professional in order to take full advantage of all the hardware) or Windows 8.1, you have to make sure you install the 64 bit version or you won't be able to use all the RAM you have in the computer.
This shouldn't be too hard as everything within the last 2-3 years has come with a 64 bit version of Windows. - No Hackintosh. I hesitate to even raise the topic, but I am imagining the comments coming, so I thought I should.
With Apple moving to the x86 hardware architecture, it is technically possible to run OSX on hardware not directly sold from Apple.
You can get specific components of hardware and then use some hacks to get OSX loaded up and have it function fairly similarly to a Mac without paying for a Mac.
It is true you can save some money here, but besides it being legally questionable (violates OSX terms of service and possibly the DMCA) it is difficult to maintain the hacks over time.
As new OSX updates come out the hacks frequently stop working until those smart hackers out there figure out how to get around it.
It simply isn’t worth the trouble. If you want a Mac, buy one.
If you are interested in building your own PC there are plenty of DIY build recommendations and instructions out there to make this very possible.
It sounds really intimidating at first because hardware has such confusing names and not everything can fit together.
But I can recommend Paul’s Hardware Channel and the PCDIY channel on YouTube along with the digital video editing DIY build recommendations from videoguys.com.
Mac Recommendations (early 2015)
You don’t have nearly as many different ways to configure a Mac as you do a PC, really just a few choices.
I thought I would break out my recommendations for Mac differently that I did for PC based on the model choices from least expensive (not cheap) to outrageous
Mac Mini
The Mac mini is the entry level machine from Apple really designed for people switching from a PC.
It is a tiny little desktop computer that packs quite a lot of punch into a small space, and will run Photoshop and Lightroom very well.
If after reading this article you think you might like trying a switch from a PC, this would be a really good way to try it out and see how you like the world of Mac.
Here is how I would configure it minimally for photo editing (about $1,000):
- 2.6GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
- 16GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM (max)
- 1TB fusion drive (will probably want a thunderbolt external drive)
- Apple Magic Mouse
MacBook Air
The entry level laptop from Apple is very nice as far as a laptop goes.
It gives you probably the ultimate in portability, but you will honestly get more power out of the Mac mini for less money.
Here is how I would configure it minimally for photo editing (about $1,300):
- 11 inch model
- 4GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 2.7GHz
- 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM (max, can’t get 16)
- 256GB PCIe-based Flash Storage (going to need a thunderbolt external drive)
- Apple Magic Mouse
MacBook Pro
PC manufacturers are catching up (some of them shown at CES 2015 looked pretty nice) but the MacBook Pro is arguably the best laptop money can buy and is awesome for photo editing.
The Mac mini offers roughly the same power here, with 4x more storage, for less money, but here is the minimal configuration I recommend (about $1,800):
- 13 inch model
- 6GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz
- 16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
- 256GB PCIe-based Flash Storage (max, going to need a thunderbolt external drive)
- Apple Magic Mouse
You’ll notice that I recommend the Apple Magic Mouse with each one, that’s because the mouse is so good it is worth the money to get one.
I would also recommend that with either of the MacBook models you should also get a monitor to use with them when you are in your office.
Editing photos on those tiny screens, nice as they are (and they are incredible), is not great.
The Apple Thunderbolt Display would be a really good choice, but at $1,000 that pretty much doubles your cost. Yikes.
iMac
Apple just revamped the iMac in late 2014, making it one of the most desirable desktop computers for photo editing due to the 5k display.
As of the writing of this article there aren’t really 5k options available for the PC world, and I can confirm that even as a hobbyist a high resolution monitor is a VERY big deal.
Could you save some dollars and consider the previous model iMac? Absolutely.
You will still get a very good display with it, just not 5k. And the iMac has been a good machine very capable of doing photo editing for quite some time.
In fact, at this point I think it is a fair statement across all these Mac models to say that a previous generation model will work pretty well – just look for the RAM.
Here is my minimum recommendation for an iMac, which isn’t the 5k version (Jim reports that the difference seems TINY to him), but isn’t the smallest model either (about $2,200):
- 27 inch model (you could go down to 21 if it isn’t in the budget, but it really is worth it to go 27)
- 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM – 2X8GB
- 1TB Fusion Drive (will probably want a thunderbolt external drive)
- Apple Magic Mouse (already included with an iMac)
Mac Pro
Now we enter the world of insanity for many. The Mac Pro is an incredibly powerful machine, but I don’t recommend it for a beginning photographer. It is something more for a power video editor.
Of course you could edit photos on it without the machine breaking a sweat, but it is overkill in my opinion and you are much better served to spend the cash on lenses.
I don’t need to provide a minimum configuration here because anything you order of a Mac Pro is going to rock Photoshop, Lightroom, and Premiere Pro.
The most inexpensive Mac Pro starts at about $3,000, which may seem not too bad when you compare it with the iMac because that is only $800 more.
Wait, did I just say ONLY $800?
But there is no monitor that comes with that, so you have to add that on top ($1,000 thunderbolt display).
So you could get an iMac and a MacBook Air for less than a Mac Pro and monitor, which would be better in my opinion.
Conclusion
A PC user doesn’t have to switch to a Mac in order to have a good experience editing photos.
I think it makes a lot of sense for a photographer to stick with what they know.
At some point it may make sense to go to Mac from PC, especially if you are a professional photographer, but it is really a matter of personal preference and neither has a big advantage over the other.
Just make sure you have enough hardware for the job in whichever you choose.
OK, so now let me have it in the comments below 🙂
Hello Jeff,
Loved the article, very well written and informative. I couldn’t agree more with stick to what you know.
The argument between pc and mac will last an eternity until one becomes the other haha. I still have heated debate with my dad on these matters.
It’s nice to hear someone other than me say that pc can be equally good with the right build.
I have run and built pc since early high school as a full on pc gamer nothing you could say back then would change my mind to mac. I even attended a mac gaming test trial and a tournament, however that’s not what mac is good at.
However I too got sick of the tireless comments relating to getting a mac for my photography as they’re better in every way for the work I was to be doing. I used G5 macs at photography class for a couple of years when they were new on the scene and I didn’t see the appeal. However it eventually got to me all the chatter about macs superior ability in media work. So I decided to change about 5 years ago and I don’t think it was a terrible idea just not the right fit for me.
My whole family runs macs now, and they all swear by them. I think differently still, as durable as mac is and safer from malware I still think it comes up short for me for gaming (Obviously haha) or when there is a hardware issue, I have been able to learn most fixes for any software and able to diagnose hardware issues.
However like you stated it’s an entirely different ball game when the mac has an issue to when a pc does. If there was an issue I could generally solve it and fairly quickly and low cost (If it was hardware or software). Where as I have had serious issues with several different macs over the years not all mine but family and friends both desktop and laptop both software and hardware related. The only option when it was hardware then was full computer replacement. Such as in my current situation I need to change the logic board and that costs roughly the cost of a whole new mac computer.
So I am facing this dilemma yet again, I am using a macbook pro but it has a serious issue that has ruined several flash drives and an new top of the line sd card but hey that’s life and could have happened to a pc as well. However as the macbook I’m using is older and instead of being able to change out the usb ports I have to replace the whole logic board, which to me is pointless and not an option. It has served me well for the last 5 years so I am happy with it’s years of service but want to change.
So I am heading back to pc as I still like to play games when I’m not editing or at a photoshoot and I am still a pc user at heart.
My main problem is deciding whether I get a laptop or go desktop? As a gamer I have always had desktops and just transported them around to Lan’s. Now it’s completely different as my photography is the deciding factor now. I do like the convenience of the ease of travel with a laptop, and I do travel a fair bit to photoshoots where the laptop has proven to be a great investment.
For some reason I can’t seem to sway my mind one way or the other. The laptop is certainly helpful when I am away on holidays photographing or when I travel to a photoshoot for an overnighter or two.
So i just need some help deciding and thought you may be able to shed some light on the matter. What are your thoughts?
Sorry about the long winded comment and life history.
Regards,
Hayden
@Hayden,
You do have a very tough decision to make. I am firmly convinced that desktop computers in general give far more bang for the buck over laptop computers. I am not a gamer, but I have certainly read a lot of reviews and opinions from gamers and I believe they agree that you give up a lot if you use a laptop (either in price or performance). That said, the biggest trouble I have with laptops is that the screens are all too little to do any serious photo editing. If you decide you want a laptop, I would go with the Dell XP 13″ or a 13″ MacBook Pro.
If you want to do gaming, then I believe the clear choice is to stay with Windows, although I am not a gamer so I can’t really speak to that specifically.
Have you checked out my article on choosing the best Windows PC for photo editing?
https://improvephotography.com/2015pc
Hi Jeff. your “not too tech” lingo suited me well! I am at a point since upgrading to a high pix. Nikon 810 which means editing on my laptop (albeit i5 2.5 ghz. 8 GB -or remainder of) when only using editor Capture NX-D or similar is very frustrating and slow when using sliders that adjust after several seconds or more meaning the image comparison is lost or too difficult to be able to make accurate decisions.
So after seeing Lightroom and PS in action I have decided to install a more comprehensive editor. I have a friend who will help educate me on navigation but feel sure from your information that an iMac is now necessary. The closest to my budget that meet most of your recommends is Mk. 452 B/A but has RAM @ 8Gb. The 21.5 screen fits my tiny study best and with 4096×2304 resolution will be a big improvement from HD and generally seems a good platform to work from.
Question therefore is: what will I loose from 8Gb rather than 16 RAM. I understand that expanding the RAM is not an option??
Also will I need an “add-on Thunderbolt” storage now or can this be judged later as perhaps 1TB will suffice if I only use the iMac for image storage and editing? YES I DO SNAP A LOT OF IMAGES – mostly wildlife and there is a lot of that around!!
Sorry for the lengthy script but trust you can understand my problem being a non technical PC user but enthusiastic shooter.
Hi Jeff,
Thanks for all the insight and hard work you provide for everyone, especially beginners like me. I think I want to go with the MacBook pro 13″ but i can’t figure out which spec is most beneficial. Which option would you recommend? Option 1: i7 processor, 8gb ram, 256 gb. Option 2: i5, 16 gb, 256. Option 3: i5, 8 gb, 512 gb
I plan to do photo editing in Lightroom and maybe photoshop and I tend to shoot lots of raw images. Thanks so much for your help!
Hello Jeff,
Thank you for the article. I am both a Mac and PC user. I am looking for a laptop that I use for both
photo editing and some of my business stuff that requires the Microsoft programs. I’m leaning heavier to the photo editing side and have ran into problems with the 4K screens on laptops. Great screens but it makes the icons and some menues so small that I cannot use them. If an additional window opens to make any formatting changes, the ok button drops off the screen and I am then unable to accept any changes which makes doing any formatting impossible. My understanding is that this problem is caused by the resolution being to high but will not correct itself even if I lower the resolution, which voids the reason I chose the laptop to begin with. Any thoughts on this?
Thank you,
Deb
@Deb,
I agree with you that 4K screens on laptops can be really tough, especially in Windows (getting closer with Windows 10). Check out my Windows Photo Editing SUPER guide for some help on the best laptop here:
https://improvephotography.com/35216/windows-photo-editing-super-guide/
Hi Jeff,
Great article and thanks for your time to share your knowledge. Here is the thing. I am a PC user. I am having a dell, must say that I am extremely happy with it. 6 years that I have it and still it performs really well. However I am using a go pro 4 to records video on a 4K definition. I would like to edit them but the processor of my PC is now too slow for that kind of high definition. I really enjoy also photography editing (but probably not a great expert, I am using picasa for it and I am quite happy with what I do with it, even though I would be more than happy to use a more advanced software but easy friendly). Hence that give you an idea of what I do and what is my issue. I would like to buy a new laptop to edit my video. I am thinking of buying a mac book pro since a long time but I don’t know why I can’t decide. Any recommendations that might help me choose?
thanks a lot for your help
This was very helpful for me. I have been in photography for much of my life. Always been an interest I’ve shared with several family members. I also used to manage a local studio for a large photography company for nearly 9 years. (Where for many years it was still film. Which I have to say, sometimes I miss the texture and personal feeling of.) But, now, I’ve been struggling to build my own business. I’ve been using a COMPAQ for about 5 or 6 years, and am increasingly frustrated with it’s slowness, and limits. So, I have finally decided to upgrade. My husband is a computer tech and gets frustrated trying to explain computers to me. (I’m not great with technology.) He has opinions about which to get, but he knows very little about photography. So, it’s really nice to get information from someone who has knowledge in both worlds.
Hey Jeff — I need your help if you are able to provide it. I’ve been scoping out articles as I’m a bit frustrated. My darling IT hubby decided to buy me an iMac for Mother’s Day because of my high level of frustration trying to edit photos on my HP laptop. I’ve always used Windows and have never been a fan of Apple and didn’t want to have to learn something new. But alas, I have this “gift” and must learn it. I’m finding a lot of differences using Photoshop on the iMac, compared to using it on PC. And I’ve only been “playing around” with it for a day or two. But I feel I’m more frustrated trying to get things on the iMac than I was waiting for my laptop to respond (and not crash). Any advice on how to make the transition go more smoothly? Any articles you are aware of that explain the differences of using Photoshop with iMac as opposed to on Windows? I appreciate his gift, and don’t want to return it because I can’t get my old, stubborn brain to adapt, especially since he spent months “researching the best computer for photographers and editing”. I feel like it would insult him. Especially since he’s an IT guy and builds his own computers. Thanks!!!
Is an iMac 2009 WAAAAY too slow for light room & photoshop or OK to start with for a beginner? Maybe extenting it to 8RAM….?
(I don’t have the money for new model and found an IMac 2009 in perfect condition for $350
details:
640GB HDD
2.66 GHz
4 RAM
intel core 2 duo
OS X Yosemite
Sob ive been using a MacBook for little over 6months. My problem is paying all this extra monies to access my videos, photos, music etc. For example I made a slideshow the other day and was trying to put it into my phone only to be told I need like iTunes Match which is costly , compared to Windows I just right clink and send. So basically Apple frustrates me and I’m thinking of going back to PC. However I feel like it’s not the better option, everyone always talks about the migration from PC to Mac and never Mac to PC, what to do?
Hi Jeff thanks for the article – great job! My late 2011 macbook pro with upgraded 16 GB of RAM has been acting a fool with photoshop and lightroom lately – just completely freezing. I’m thinking it might be time to upgrade but it kills me to spend that kind of money when I have 16GB of DDR3 ram already. I’m sure there has been improvements to stroage as you mentioned and the processor but i’m just wondering if it’s worth the upgrade and which route I should go. I have a high end monitor so I don’t necessarily need a solution with a screen. Do you know when the Mac Pro was last updated? I’m surprised it’s showing 16GB of ram. I’m not sure if mac mini might not be enough power. I need help!
@Shannon,
Mac Pro hasn’t been updated for a while and while I haven’t personally used one the reviews of them have not been favorable. Meaning not worth the money it takes to buy one. I think that for photography if you want a Mac desktop the iMac would be a better choice even though you have a screen you like already. A MacBook Pro is great too. 13″ Retina display model will hook up to that monitor you have just great and they make very nice photo editing machines. A fully loaded Mac Mini should have the horsepower to run Lightroom and Photoshop fine, but you would need to max it out or I think you would end up being disappointed.
However, now (May 2016) is not the best time to buy a Mac as a refresh of the lineup is due pretty soon. I would stick it out for a few more months if you can because I expect there to be Thunderbolt 3 ports available in the next generation of models, which will make using external storage even faster than it is now.
I’m glad I found this article as I am currently going through the never ending Mac vs PC debate myself. I currently own a 2010 Macbook Pro, which I love, but it is WAY too slow to run lightroom or really anything for that matter. A new Macbook Pro really isn’t in the cards right now as I just upgraded to the Nikon D7200. I have actually been debating going back to PC because of the cost. I really don’t like PCs but the Acer Nitro V17 has caught my eye. I know it’s primarily a gaming computer (which I do, do on occasion), but I’ve read that it is also Ideal for editing photos. Was wondering if i should go for it or save up for a Macbook? My photo editing has been put on hold, so I’m kind of pinched for time. Does lightroom run relatively the same on both operating systems?
here are the specs for the Acer:
Windows 10 Home
Intel® Core™ i7-6700HQ processor Quad-core 2.60 GHz
17.3″ Full HD (1920 x 1080) 16:9
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M with 4 GB Dedicated Memory
16 GB, DDR4 SDRAM
1 TB HDD
What do you think?
@Alessandra,
Yes, Lr runs very close to the same on both Mac and PC if both at similarly equipped. The Acer here would run Lightroom really well. But check out my article on the best PCs for photo editing in late 2015.
HP sucks and so does the customer service, whatever you do..do not buy this product. Two month old Envy Laptop has defective video driver and LCD screen went black, sent back for service and they apologize that they do not have the part to fix it, but they do not offer a refund or replacement…WTF??? In all my years of buying electronics this is the worst experience I have ever had with the worst customer service. The apology means nothing…fix my machine..or replace it…simple!!
Excellent article and very helpful.
I now know what to customize in my new PC order for drives, RAM, CPU, video card, etc.
Your link above in your article for a 30″ WQXGA monitor at monoprice.com no longer seems to include any 30″ monitors.
What WQXGA IPS monitor or WQHD IPS monitor at that site (or another site) do you recommend currently.
Either for a 1 monitor set-up or 2-monitors.
thanks
Thanks for sharing. I have never owned a Mac so I can not speak to their quality. I have never had any PC problems. i am probably one of the few that never download “crap” on their computer. I make sure I know exactly what I am downloading and run a malware check before opening any file. Anyway, thanks for sharing this information between the 2.
Jeff, your article was beyond true. MAC/PC really ranks with practically political affiliation. My first MacBook Pro in 2006 loaded
took getting used to organizationally since I’ve been a PC person but prior to photo editing. In 2006, I decided to go full time artist
and THAT requires a product that matches with photo editing to a level of precision. Upon reaching 15K images, 5yrs old the images,
looked to be there yet click on it and they were a black square with a question mark on them. Since I use Photo Elements and design
my own professional ads for publication, losing the inventory made me freak. Yes, I had backup. It too was corrupt. Hours with support as deadlines raced towards me, Apple only stated they do not get viruses and lucky for me I met a tech gal that builds machines too and she put my Pro images back. Caveat : Not in date order. So, Apple said if I bought another Macbook pro 2014, the dates would fix themselves. Not true. In less than 2 years, I get the wheel of death spinning on every transaction. It can take hours to upload one photo, minor edits and distribute to web, and sites for marketing. (I’m in 4 galleries). I’m losing my mind!
My family all use PC’s. I ask all the professionals I know PC or Mac, and get split and passionate answers. Dare I try a PC?
Or go with a new Desktop and not move these files to it? Just start new and keep this one? It is way beyond the genius bar. The phone support is far more specifically helpful. Loved your article. Ready for a new job in Charleston, SC Vicki.
Loved your article! I’ve been looking into something along these lines, huge investment though. I have only ever used PC’s and mine is 5 years old so it’s definitely time for an upgrade. Is it worth it?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lenovo-20BS00BAUS-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-14-Touchscreen-IPS-Ultrabook/47392921
THANKS! You just made my life easier as a photography student. I do have a Mac pro but its a dinosaur lol. Editing is ok but my professor is trying to get me to get the windows surface pro 4. Terrified to switch from Mac. I love it. I broke 3 dells and I am not a windows lover. So, this helped. I look at the Windows Surface Pro 4 and its great and all but for me a bunch of confusion I do not need with learning my Nikon D610 and Sony mirrorless camera and I have a Cannon Ti5… yup i dabble but prefer Nikon lol. THANKS AGAIN
Do you have any thoughts on The Surface line? Compared to the Macbook Pro?
Spot on article. I have no allegiance to brands these days, especially after Apple dropped the pros for the apps. I shoot Nikon only because I can get it cheaper and I don’t lose out in quaility and use a PC desktop because I got a deal on gumtree and its kickass and a Mac laptop as its better and will not touch a PC laptop ever again. That said.. when shit goes south… Macs are so much easier to fix , just simple things like your PC not picking up your wireless card when you reinstall windows and you need to download a driver… Mac kills it , unless you can handle downtime i.e. non pro, have back up computers, are good with computers or know someone who doesn’t mind you hassling them or there is a budget issue… go Mac Id say.. I mean I use both but my 5 year old mac laptop that I`m typing on after editing in Lightroom a HUGE job is one of my two back ups (the other a mac) for my kickass PC (which had some load error…..)
I do a lot of work in Photoshop, all on a PC. It is spec’d out to handle much more intensive programs. And I have a nice screen. I happen to be asked how to do something in Ps on an iMac, low end version, and it is amazing the difference you’ll see in the smoothness of the application and how much easier it is to get the effect you were going for versus on a PC.